Very Good Looking, But Awful Sound Quality

Sennheiser is a quality company that makes solid headphones. But unfortunately, they have one really bad line. The HD 4... line. This review would also include the HD410, 435, 465, and this one, the 485, as all have similar poor sound quality. The bass is very good, but overwhemling, and ridiculously warm. And these specific ones sound much too bright, and mixed in with the overpowered bass, makes these sound much too thick sounding. Very disappointing sound quality. These are very comfortable, and have the Sennheiser name and the two year warranty, but sound quality is poor and these are not a good value at all to me. I'd prefer the Beyerdynamic DT231 or Grado SR80 at this pricepoint.